Both are garbage, for rich people they're the same, but for the rest of us, the one is better, if it were implemented correctly, because charity bloody sucks
those damned commercials...
For one thing, if people want their morbidly ill children to be treated at no cost, why not invest in universal healthcare, the thing other countries WAY AHEAD OF US already have?
The commercials boast how all the patients who arrive at Shriners hospitals or St Jude's or wherever it is, never see a bill, and never pay a penny. Ummm, this constantly flummoxes me because that could be...
Not Medicare-for-all, which the Bernie camp likes to push, but MEDICAID-for-all! I should know - since becoming unemployed and going on Medicaid, it's been wonderful
Everything is paid for; Medicare only covers eighty percent. You are responsible for the rest.
When I used to work in a hospital in a severely impoverished area of the city with potholes the size of asteroids and patients whose most common complaints were gunshot wounds and rampant diabetes, I used to marvel at and secretly covet the Medicaid HMO cards I would have to register for the majority of those patients. As I fingered that Caresource card, something inside me stirred and I KNEW I had to have it
At my job with employer-sponsored health insurance, I always had co-pays for appointments and visits to the ER, always got an Explanation of Benefits in the mail to show me what portion of my expenses the insurance company refused to cover, always had to pay,pay, pay, because I kept going to appointments because working actually makes you sick
And so I got panic disorder and gastric disturbances and needed this appointment and to see this doctor and you know to go for this this and this, and THIS costs a lot of money, especially if you have to make repeat performances
Medications, depending on the use, can also be expensive OF COURSE, I had older co-workers who carefully budgeted every month the HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS they were going to have to allot for medications; so much for insurance!
And then Obamacare came and these crazy insurances with 4000 dollar deductibles and hundred dollar co-pays materialized and my employer started laying off people; at least some states expanded Medicaid, one of the only benefits to this collusion with insurance payors (aside from automatic coverage for people with pre-existing conditions)
I've heard right wing and conspiracy activists declare ominously and negatively that Obamacare is the first step toward universal healthcare in this country and I am like "OH MY GOD IF ONLY"
The STATE might get all that juicy knowledge about you, but private corporations already have it, and that's better
You also don't want to be forced to pay for someone else's health problems, right? Because this is America, where I'm-a-rebel-because-I-refuse to-wear-my-seat-belt-but-rich-people-have-the-right-to-exploit-me, and I'll be damned if I have to pay for some fat ass's lifestyle mistakes!
I should be able to CHOOSE where I put my money, because I'm not paying for abortions, and I refuse to pay for fatties
But I will let little children with debilitating illnesses, through no fault of their own, beg me for money with their cute pleading faces and their heart-break stories
I will allow little children to whore themselves out in annoying commercials along with the screaming mimi's from ASPCA ( to fund their robots that shoo homeless people away from their offices in San Francisco)
I fucking hate these commercials, so I choose taxation
I choose to pay every paycheck so I never have to pay again
It's the 'ol "I don't have to watch those commercials", of course, but the fact that they exist is offensive
Using sick children to guilt trip kind-hearted individuals into giving their hard-earned money ON TOP of paying taxes and not getting anything in return for it
You have to hope someone decides to help you out in your time of need, but I guess that's what Go Fund Me and Patreon are for
Beg Beg Beg
First, I love the "do research" barb that people always throw out when they feel offended. Which research should I do? Hurry up and find an article! If there was a system in place for medical issues ( why, universal healthcare! like other countries, more advanced than ours, for instance, have), you wouldn't need charity programs. That was the first person's point; he or she was not implying that tax money should go to some willy-nilly private charity. It's amazing how many people buy into the notion of healthcare as a commodity you can take or leave, it's just not the case. And how many people consider it a privilege! But you're right, I would be pretty fucking pissed if my taxes went to pay for universal healthcare that I knew I would probably use some time in my life
why is charity so great?
If charity exists, it's because there are a lot of needy people around, which means you live in a broken system
Charity is a bad sign
Charity exists because society itself is unfair, so charity is used to compensate for it. Of course, if we lived in a just society, without an unequal distribution of wealth, it wouldn't be necessary
Charity groups actually don't create a product; they supposedly address lack, they supposedly reallocate resources. Americans generally eschew the idea of socialism and redistribution of wealth, but charity is cool
As long as it's a hierarchy, with lots of overhead, and the CEO gets tons of money, and a diminished proportion of funds actually reaches those who need it, it's DA BEST
People who support the idea of charity support the intrinsic unfairness of our current economic system. There is a power dynamic to charity, since it is a relationship between two unequal partners, and the charity recipient is always at the mercy of the charity giver.The recipient is expected to jump through hoops or to have suffered the worst possible circumstances in order to get any help, and even when they qualify, it's still a difficult road to obtain any
Those same people who resent welfare and declare that it makes people weak and dependent, are the same who promote charities to help people buy jacked up bottled water after hurricane disasters
Is charity even effective?
It sure is, but not in its' stated aims
It's very effective in allowing the very wealthy to look good in the public eye and to create more wealth for themselves.
Celebrities LOVE charities, because they get to attend those glamorous balls and they get to somehow dignify their vacuous existences in the public eye
Charity institutions are great fronts for actual for-profit institutions, an example being the Clinton Foundation, which has made its' namesake founders millions of dollars, as charity institutions are wont to do, even if you believe insanely in the innocence and good will of the Clinton family
the saga of the clinton foundation and other dubious charitable efforts
It isn't just a tacky question of whether people should be forced to pay for other people's medical conditions
It's a question of the welfare of a society where NO ONE is protecting average individuals from exorbitant medical costs
It's open season on the American citizen, and given the food we are forced (yes forced, because food food everywhere, and not very much of it actually edible) to eat in this country and its' ever-encroaching environmental conditions, also the kind of job you might have (are you sitting all day in a cubicle? are you doing back breaking work? are you breathing in nasty chemicals all day?), you are going to have medical problems. If you exist in this country's current system of life, you will inevitably become a cog in its medical-financial machine, and nothing is going to save you
Except the chance to be displayed for the advertising purposes of a charity, and if you are one of those really serious cases, you might get everything paid for
but you have to be REALLY badly off
Where I live, they drag their feet in fixing the streets and when it snows, one year I got laughed at and told I was "next" when I called city hall to inquire as to why my street was not getting plowed and there was no way I was gonna make it to work (I didn't make it to work - this happened two years in a row actually )
It's like when the police dispatcher told me that the police "had to find my house" and that's why they hadn't showed up yet an hour after i called in a noise complaint
Corrupt individuals may screw up what are supposed to be the benefits of taxation, which should never be a privilege, but a right, but this is America. In Europe, they have managed to provide relatively worry-free healthcare for their citizens, and if you are a beneficiary of Medicaid, you are relatively worry-free too
Bula Blithely-Pliss is pretty convinced that basic income though IS a plot to take away our rights